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Independence, Reality, Age and Limits to Growth

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I had written a blog post five years back (in 2010) on how your family can own 70% of Indian listed and unlisted companies here

In the previous article in 2010 I touched on how you could set up a foundation, where nobody could touch the capital, convince your next five generations to continue to compound money on value investing principles and accumulate over 70% of the financial wealth of India.

I though it was time to raise the bar 🙂 , being a big fan of DIY, methinks, why depend on your family office / foundation, rather why not do it yourself, and why limit to India, why not the entire planet.


When I started getting greedy for money, it was with the objective of, in Munger speak “not being an empty sack, so that I could stand upright…” and can spend the time of the day the way I like.

Now that I think about it, the financial independence objective was a very narrow definition, I would still be a slave of my mental habits, still be confined in the same body, time-space, same century, same planet, prisoner to the food demands of the body every single day, the list goes on… So, true independence must be more than financial independence.

You can read how people with 100 million, and 1 billion and 10 Billion spend their time and get the kick

Frankly, none of the antics of billionaires as described in the article appeal to me. Nevertheless, by accumulating a suffocating amount of wealth, the energy represented by financial wealth can be channeled into project to change the complete landscape of the planet, re-instating mission statements of schools, colleges, and corporate world. You can very well do that if you control 70% of wealth on the planet.


Reality is stranger than the strangest fiction novel you can ever imagine, it is beyond imagination, reality allows imagination faculty to imagine. 

The examples that I may quote from may be from India or China, but they apply to all lands, Egypt, Greece, Lemuria, Atlantis etc

Before you dismiss what I am about to write on human age as utter non-sense, fortunately I can provide some tangible proofs to the completely hyper rational logical mind. 

English unfortunately is a very un-mathematical language, where names and words do not really have a mathematical origin. Sanskrit is one of the oldest languages and besides having strong rules, the words have a root meaning, those meanings have not changed for 5000 years+. Tamil is as old or more older than Sanskrit but I know little about Tamil.

Examples from Reality

I remember wondering as a kid constantly mesmerized with thoughts of how big the universe is and whether it has an edge or boundary, how old is it.I am sure you felt the same. Later we lost some of that wonder to scrape through Monday tests, half yearly and annual exams in the school, pathetic.

If you ask the brightest Nobel Laureate on this planet or students from IIT or MIT, or luminaries from NASA, “Who / When was it discovered that the Universe is expanding?”

The answer is likely to be “Edwin Hubble in 1929”.

The correct answer should be “I don’t know, too hard to tell”. But for the sake of being announced of sound mind and judgment and not being abandoned by your family and friends, you would not answer that.

Just see how that assertion of discovery of universe is expanding in 1929 is wrong:

More than 99% people living in India would have heard of the word Brahmanda as described in their Vedic texts over 5000 years back. Brahmanda means universe in sanskrit, no kidding. It comprises of two words:

Brah = Stretch or Expand
Anda = Shape of an Egg

Similar statement was quoted 1400 years ago:
[Quran 51.4] And the heaven, We built it with craftsmanship and We are still expanding.

What I have actually found is that earth is going through cycles, the intellectual, emotional and spiritual watermark of this 21st century civilization is way below the levels reached in the previous civilizations right here on this planet in numerous countries. It may well surpass in future, but as yet it hasn’t. Greeks called them Bronze, Iron, Silver, Golden age and Indians called them Kali, Dwapar, Treta and Satya Yuga.

There are two other words worth pointing which prove that Ancient Indians (remember high water mark as has not yet been breached, not even close) knew very well than earth is round and has speed.

“Earth” in Hindi language even today in 2015 is described as: Jagat Bhugol (these are 5000 years+ old words). I am myself familiar.

Bhu = Earth
Gol = Round
Gat = Speed ( a courier cmpany on BSE is listed GATI, meaning speed

Vedas are full of checksums (that IT people must be familiar with). They were orally transmitted until man during descending cycle became intellectually weak to unable to memorize all the tomes, hence a part of them were written down (a whole lot was withdrawn from being written, that is lost knowledge).

Another example is from Hanuman Chalisa, which a lot of women from India are familiar with as a prayer chant, in one of the mantras is embedded the distance of Earth to the Sun : “Yug sahastra yojan per Bhanu. Leelyo taahi madhur phal janu. “

1 Yug = 12000 years 
1 Sahastra = 1000 
1 Yojan = 8 Miles 
Yug x Sahastra x Yojan = par Bhanu 12000 x 1000 x 8 miles = 96000000 miles 
1 mile = 1.6kms 
96000000 miles = 96000000 x 1.6kms = 1536000000 kms to Sun.

Bhanu = Sun
Leelyo = Play
Tahi = You
Madhur = Sweet
Phal = Fruit

A true scripture is multi-dimensional. It is valid for an idiot, a businessman, and a spiritual aspirant with many knot points, not easily understood.

Moving on, I may have convinced you, or perhaps not, the that fact Universe is Expanding was merely re-discovered.

Star Antares is the 15th brightest object in sky. In ancient India it was known by the name ‘Jesta’ meaning the biggest, largest and the eldest. Jesta is the star that is 40,000 times larger than our Sun.

‘Viman Shastra’ a several thousand year old treatise on air travel, mentions construction of flying vehicles for inter-stellar travel but the formulas are un-decipherable and many smart minds across the globe are trying to reverse engineer. 

Time dilation is touched on in the Indian puranas, there is mention of a meeting that King has to go to with beings on another planet, after he comes back in 30 minutes of other planet from that meeting, 700 years have elapsed on earth and his Kingdom is dust. 

The Value of PI is mentioned in the Vedas up to 28 decimal places

A Sloka in the 10th book of Rig Veda appears to be written for praising Lord Indra

The technical translation of that Sloka gives the value of pi up to 28 digits accurately. It is not until the invention of the computers that the western mathematicians could get this value up to 16 digits accurately. Here is a test for those who think that a computer can do any calculation. Use the fastest computer available to you and write a program to calculate the value of pi up to 28 digits accurately. You will know how difficult it is.

Vedic Numerical Code In Sanskrit, the following Vedic Numerical code was used in many slokas

“Kaadi nava Taadi nava Paadi panchaka Yadyashtaka Kshah sunyam”

कादि नव टादि नव पादि पञ्चक यद्यश्टक क्ष शुन्यम् 

>Kaadi Nava Starting from ka, the sequence of 9 letters represent 1,2,..9.
>Similarly Taadi Nava , starting from ta
>Paadi panchaka (1-5), starting from pa
>Yadyashtaka (1-8) starting from ya
>And ksha represents 0

In detail
ka(क)-1, kha(ख)-2, ga(ग)-3, gha(घ)-4,gna(ङ)-5, cha(च)-6, cha(छ)-7, ja(ज)-8,jha(झ)-9

ta(ट)-1, tha(ठ)-2, da(ड)-3, dha(ढ)-4,~na(ण)-5, Ta(त)-6, Tha(थ)-7, Da(द)-8,Dha(ध)-9

pa(प)-1, pha(फ)-2, ba(ब)-3, bha(भ)-4,ma(म)-5

ya(य)-1, ra(र)-2, la(ल)-3, va(व)-4, Sa(श)-5, sha(ष)-6, sa (स)-7, ha(ह)-8

kshah (क्ष)-0.

Based on this code there are many slokas in mathematics
e.g., For PI value, a sloka is as folows..

गोपीभाग्य मधुव्रातः श्रुंगशोदधि संधिगः |
खलजीवितखाताव गलहाला रसंधरः ||

gopeebhaagya maDhuvraathaH shruMgashodhaDhi saMDhigaH
khalajeevithakhaathaava galahaalaa rasaMDharaH

ga-3, pa-1, bha-4, ya -1, ma-5, Dhu-9, ra-2, tha-6, shru-5, ga-3, sho-5, dha-8, Dhi -9, sa-7, Dha- 9, ga-3, kha-2, la-3, jee-8, vi-4, tha-6, kha-2, tha-6, va-4, ga-3, la-3, ha-8, la-3, ra-2, sa-7, Dha-9, ra-2


The above sloka has actually 3 meanings
1. In favor of Lord Shiva
2. In favor of Lord Krishna
3. The value of PI upto 28 decimals.


Compounding and time is very fascinating combination. The longer you can compound, the less capital you need. For example if you were to compound 1 Million USD for 100 years @ 20% CAGR (DIY or Foundation or Family) you would accumulate 82 Trillion USD ( more than GDP of the world in 2015)

If you have only 10,000$ to start with you can accumulate all Global Assets in 126 Years.

If you are born in the most un-favourable circumstances but know about compounding. You can save 1$ a day for 30 years to accumulate your first 10,000$ and reach the goal of accumulating all Global Assets in 156 years.

How old can a man live ?

I used to think 70 to 100 years. But like I said, reality is stranger than fiction. I have not met any person myself as yet, but have done sufficient research to know that man can live for several 100s of years.

A particular saint from India around 15,000 BC, that was in highest age (Golden in Greek, Satya in India) devised internal medicine and external cleansing processes to conquer age and termed it Kaya-Kalpa (Body Immortality) Yoga. Sage Agasta’s goal was obviously not to compound money 🙂 but make spiritual progress within this life and prolong life. Some of the people who mastered those techniques lived for over 12,000 years. I know you might be tempted to lock me up in a lunatic asylum.

Meanwhile I know of two documented examples, one from India and another from China of people who have lived for over 250 years, both using some breathing exercises or meditation.

So, my friend, I have proven to you how you could take over the planet financially. Think long term! Buffett might need to launch a research on Agastya’s work if he wants to be the oldest person in the world.

Known Universe

The known universe as widely accepted is also pretty big. Don’t get carried away with the thought that 83 Trillion USD is a lot of money. It is, but still on an insignificant speck of invisible dust particle in the big picture.

Have a look:

Written by amitdipsite

October 25, 2015 at 6:11 am

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  1. Absolutely amazing Amit. Love it!

    Niranjan Shetty

    October 25, 2015 at 8:56 am

  2. Awesome Amit.. I saw an excellent video about yugas by sadhguru Jaggi vasudev.. Search “The Greate Cycles or Yugas” Isha foundation in youtube. Check it out.

    – Balaji

    Eternal Seeker

    October 26, 2015 at 3:42 pm

  3. Hello Balaji,

    Thanks for sharing !

    I went though that 1 hour video, very informative.

    Its a little incorrect in terms of deciding when the cycles began, duration and length of cycles is more or less correct, but according to my research the time of starting Second / Dwapara is incorrect.

    A lot of youngsters hate dusty old books and people with beard, they need a rockstars wearing sun glasses to teach them these cool things in packed stadiums 🙂


    Amit Arora

    October 26, 2015 at 9:05 pm

  4. Glad you liked it, Niranjan

    Amit Arora

    October 26, 2015 at 9:18 pm

  5. Hello,

    A very nice article on a very interesting topic!

    I always wanted to write to you everafter reading about the spiritual views you keep along with investing 🙂

    There is atleast two things common with us, investing and spiritual aspiration.

    My two cents:

    Its not much worth in exploring the possibilities to expand this form of life to 200 or 500 or even 20000 years!

    You may get a detailed idea by seeing the commentary of 'KATHOPANISHAD' by OSHO in the “Message Beyond Words” – in my view a must read from OSHO's collection.

    Second point is, atleast 99% of achievers of higher consiuosness gets atleast some form of help from a living MASTER. Cases are there against this, but very limited, by the way they are legends like Moses, Buddha, Jesus etc.. So the first or second step in the journey towards higher sense is to find a LIVING MASTER who is already attained, but at the same time very difficult to evaluate the validity / authenticity of such a person. Finding a TRUE GURU itself is a paradox!!



    Zainul Abid T P

    October 27, 2015 at 2:02 pm

  6. Hi,
    Query regarding your trading position stock Blue Chip Tex.

    Any idea about why Managing Director (Mr. Nand Khemani) resigned ? and who will be the next MD and outlook of the company.



    October 28, 2015 at 2:40 pm

  7. Super … 🙂

    Compound well… live long enough… accumulate masses of wealth and transform the world for better…. tathaastu 🙂




    October 29, 2015 at 12:16 pm

  8. Dear Zain,

    Another Master said, ” If you once get an experience of how much territory you soul can cover, you would abandon everything immediately”, so I understand your point 😀


    Amit Arora

    October 29, 2015 at 6:22 pm

  9. Wonderful article.absolute knowledge and wisdom

    Sudheer Kumar

    October 31, 2015 at 2:28 am

  10. Amit,

    I am reading “Kundalini”- by Gopi Krishna.. referred from your shelfari.. It is an amazing book. Thanks for sharing your comments.. It has connected many dots i had and given a sense of clarity.

    Since you are more spiritually inclined, I wanted to suggest you the book, “Many lives Many Masters” and “Same Soul Many Bodies” by Brian Weiss. These books are excellent read.. Check it out..

    Eternal Seeker

    November 2, 2015 at 10:09 pm

  11. Thanks for the the reference, will read soon.

    This Dr Brian Weiss (Psychiatrist). If you tell someone has a PhD and teaches in an American University, it more likely to be acceptable to skeptic minds

    “The Science of Yoga” by Sri Yukteswar
    “God talks to Arjuna” by Yogananda,
    “The Wisdom of Rishis” by Sri M (Mumtaz Ali Khan)

    The Masters have long successfully gone from Theory to Practice in the field of matter control what we just re-discovered in the 20th century, E = MC2

    Amit Arora

    November 3, 2015 at 1:19 am

  12. Read above books if you get time

    Amit Arora

    November 3, 2015 at 1:26 am

  13. Sure Amit.. Will keep them in my toread list.


    Eternal Seeker

    November 3, 2015 at 3:36 pm

  14. absolutely fanatic example of intelligence.

    need more of such posts please.

    aditya M

    November 27, 2015 at 9:34 am

  15. Surprised !!! Am I reading the blog of stock or Sprituality ? Believe me Not only Enjoyed but liked , that there Is Real ATMAN behind this . If I can add to this is only one more book , I.e. Autobiograph of a Yogi , by Paramhansa Yoganand. With warm Regards.

    Mahesh Spiritual

    January 2, 2016 at 3:33 am

  16. I will write this type of stuff (nonsense for some) on other blog in future (

    Also read “God Talks to Arjuna” from PY

    All the best

    Amit Arora

    January 2, 2016 at 10:02 pm

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    Mahesh Spiritual

    January 3, 2016 at 4:20 am

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